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23 Apr 2013 16:07 #1
by Jack (Keeperofdice)
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A thought. was created by Jack (Keeperofdice)
To all who call Travance home,
I have some thoughts that have been wandering through my head for quite some time that I would like to share with you. Ours is a life of constant struggle and dedication, one that we’ve chosen for ourselves. We live here on the outskirts of civilization constantly threatened by the great unknown. I cannot speak for all of you, but where I come from many would not be willing to take that risk.
Every day is a test. A constant battle of the many paths and opportunities set before us. In each of us there is a great capacity for good as well as evil. The time I’ve spent in Travance has taught me much about the world and about myself. I was very much guilty of being ignorant of the plight of others. Over time I grew to accept, understand, and change that.
It all starts with a scream. Out in the woods, a solitary yell for help. There are those who ignore those calls, dismissing it as not being their problem. That is where truly begins. Those screams are at the very foundation a plea for survival. A call that says: I don’t want to die. The very thing we ourselves in this frontier town fight for every day: our lives. I don’t expect doctors and alchemists to pick up swords and run out into the night. But we all must be constantly vigilant. If you the individual do not make the choice to go out and help them why do you think anyone else would?
I would not even go so far as say that I’m trying to insinuate that everyone needs to be a hero. What I am saying is to just be mindful of those around you. To help each other survive. We are here in this together. To that end there is something else that we must be mindful of as well. The majority of individuals that we often come into conflict with are either individuals who have chosen a life of trying to get what they want by taking it, or are merely just trying to survive like us.
Killing someone is a permanent end to a temporary situation. Too often have I seen individuals who accosted others, be cut open before my very eyes. In the heat of the moment blades are drawn and lives are lost. Finding out why an individual does something can help us fix the problem. They could be stealing for their family. Or coming from a town where there is no work to be done just looking to get by. Knight-Captain Magnus sets a fine example in this regard. Of course those who go against the law do need to be punished, serving their time or paying their fines. But when they are done we can leave them all to a better way of life by enabling them, by teaching them, and by guiding them. Everyone deserves a chance.
Do not let a moment filled with passion end the life of a father who was merely looking to get money to buy food for his children. Subdue them, get a guard to take them to jail, find out why they did it, and offer them a better way. Many people you will find unfortunately don’t know that there are other ways to survive. Help them to be better. Thank you for taking the time to read my musings.
I have some thoughts that have been wandering through my head for quite some time that I would like to share with you. Ours is a life of constant struggle and dedication, one that we’ve chosen for ourselves. We live here on the outskirts of civilization constantly threatened by the great unknown. I cannot speak for all of you, but where I come from many would not be willing to take that risk.
Every day is a test. A constant battle of the many paths and opportunities set before us. In each of us there is a great capacity for good as well as evil. The time I’ve spent in Travance has taught me much about the world and about myself. I was very much guilty of being ignorant of the plight of others. Over time I grew to accept, understand, and change that.
It all starts with a scream. Out in the woods, a solitary yell for help. There are those who ignore those calls, dismissing it as not being their problem. That is where truly begins. Those screams are at the very foundation a plea for survival. A call that says: I don’t want to die. The very thing we ourselves in this frontier town fight for every day: our lives. I don’t expect doctors and alchemists to pick up swords and run out into the night. But we all must be constantly vigilant. If you the individual do not make the choice to go out and help them why do you think anyone else would?
I would not even go so far as say that I’m trying to insinuate that everyone needs to be a hero. What I am saying is to just be mindful of those around you. To help each other survive. We are here in this together. To that end there is something else that we must be mindful of as well. The majority of individuals that we often come into conflict with are either individuals who have chosen a life of trying to get what they want by taking it, or are merely just trying to survive like us.
Killing someone is a permanent end to a temporary situation. Too often have I seen individuals who accosted others, be cut open before my very eyes. In the heat of the moment blades are drawn and lives are lost. Finding out why an individual does something can help us fix the problem. They could be stealing for their family. Or coming from a town where there is no work to be done just looking to get by. Knight-Captain Magnus sets a fine example in this regard. Of course those who go against the law do need to be punished, serving their time or paying their fines. But when they are done we can leave them all to a better way of life by enabling them, by teaching them, and by guiding them. Everyone deserves a chance.
Do not let a moment filled with passion end the life of a father who was merely looking to get money to buy food for his children. Subdue them, get a guard to take them to jail, find out why they did it, and offer them a better way. Many people you will find unfortunately don’t know that there are other ways to survive. Help them to be better. Thank you for taking the time to read my musings.
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23 Apr 2013 16:20 #2
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Replied by Augustus (OEBlaze) on topic A thought.
While I agree wholeheartedly, I would like to make an addition. We should also be mindful of wildlife that wanders into our lands. Too many times has a pack of wolves been cut down for growling or boars for being in the way. Hunting is one thing, but I am referring to the needless killing of animals that are only looking to survive. Travance has plenty of Druids that can deal with the problem if need be.
Just adding my two cents.
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23 Apr 2013 16:44 #3
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I agree fully, to hastily we end the lives of those who we can reform. In death reform is no longer an option. We should not be so quick to make a final verdict on any life.
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23 Apr 2013 16:51 #4
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Replied by Elawyn (Elawyn) on topic A thought.
Thank you for these words. Each of you.
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24 Apr 2013 08:54 #5
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Replied by LStarling (Kwildar) on topic A thought.
I would like to add my voice in thanks alongside Lady Brightstar's.
Every needless death is the work of the Darkness. In death there is no repentance, reform or light. In mercy, Justice, can we make this world a better place, and bolster Goodness and Light.
Every needless death is the work of the Darkness. In death there is no repentance, reform or light. In mercy, Justice, can we make this world a better place, and bolster Goodness and Light.
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24 Apr 2013 09:39 #6
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Replied by Narcis (ChrisR) on topic A thought.
An interesting sentiment. However, what shall be done to those who do not or cannot reform? To those who, even among chances given run to the dark? Surely mercy must run out at some point...
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24 Apr 2013 10:25 #7
by Jack (Keeperofdice)
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Replied by Jack (Keeperofdice) on topic A thought.
We may only show the individual the path they can choose to take. Ultimately it is up to them. If they run into the darkness then myself and many others would give chase. It is not a question of whether an individual can reform or not, but giving them the chance to do so. Everyone deserves at least a chance at redemption.
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24 Apr 2013 11:26 #8
by Chesta (Kevin)
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Replied by Chesta (Kevin) on topic A thought.
All life is important, no one man can be placed higher than another for life in its many forms is precious. It is true that some fall into darkness but they can be saved given an oppertunity. Death is the saddest of answers because it means that afterwords there is no hope for redemption and all that is left is what could have been. A second chance, can be the greatest gift we can give.
I am sorry if my input is not welcome. I just felt it must have been said.
I am sorry if my input is not welcome. I just felt it must have been said.
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24 Apr 2013 14:14 #9
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Replied by LStarling (Kwildar) on topic A thought.
Avaiiden,
Mercy and Compassion never run out. The resolve of the hearts of those in whom it does is simply not as strong as some others. There are ways for every action to be Merciful and Compassionate, even when dealing with a punishment that would send someone to the gates to be judged by Galladell. If you wish to speak further on the subject, please seek me out next moon, I would be more than happy to discuss it with you, and any others who would be interested.
Mercy and Compassion never run out. The resolve of the hearts of those in whom it does is simply not as strong as some others. There are ways for every action to be Merciful and Compassionate, even when dealing with a punishment that would send someone to the gates to be judged by Galladell. If you wish to speak further on the subject, please seek me out next moon, I would be more than happy to discuss it with you, and any others who would be interested.
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24 Apr 2013 14:32 #10
by Jack (Keeperofdice)
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Replied by Jack (Keeperofdice) on topic A thought.
Archbishop Kwildar,
I have a philosophical question for you. I remember you told me that an Andorran must abide by the word of an enemy if they give it, unless they have previously broken their word. As the Archbishop I would ask of your guidance to myself and other. If mercy and compassion are indeed limitless, how do we give that same mercy and compassion to those who have broken their word previously? Faith? Blind Trust? If they are on their knees begging for forgiveness and another chance, even if they have already been given it and worked against us, at what point does it move from honest penance into deception?
I have a philosophical question for you. I remember you told me that an Andorran must abide by the word of an enemy if they give it, unless they have previously broken their word. As the Archbishop I would ask of your guidance to myself and other. If mercy and compassion are indeed limitless, how do we give that same mercy and compassion to those who have broken their word previously? Faith? Blind Trust? If they are on their knees begging for forgiveness and another chance, even if they have already been given it and worked against us, at what point does it move from honest penance into deception?
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24 Apr 2013 15:25 #11
by LStarling (Kwildar)
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Replied by LStarling (Kwildar) on topic A thought.
Sir Cypher,
I believe you may be mis-remembering the word I used. The fourth tenant of Andorra is to parlay with an enemy, not abide by their word. There is certainly no requirement for us to tolerate and listen stoically and silently against false words, but that we Andorrans allow our foes the chance to entreat and speak with us unless they have previously proven false and deceitful.
This is an important distinction, as no person of the light should ever be forced to stand by silently and let words of hate be brought forth into this world.
As to the matter of your true question though, this is something I would prefer to discuss in private, but I will offer these words:
Hearts filled with Darkness can change. If a second chance is asked, I for one will almost always give it. If proof of devotion to repentance is required, I will ask it. I for one will not simply condemn a person who wishes to repent without cause. At times though, an act of devotion should be asked as proof, and if their hearts are the sort that one feels is so deceitful, perhaps asking them for an act of devotion before the gods of light themselves is not unwarranted. The gods, especially Galladell are better judges of the hearts of men, as they see all.
They do not judge blindly as we may.
I believe you may be mis-remembering the word I used. The fourth tenant of Andorra is to parlay with an enemy, not abide by their word. There is certainly no requirement for us to tolerate and listen stoically and silently against false words, but that we Andorrans allow our foes the chance to entreat and speak with us unless they have previously proven false and deceitful.
This is an important distinction, as no person of the light should ever be forced to stand by silently and let words of hate be brought forth into this world.
As to the matter of your true question though, this is something I would prefer to discuss in private, but I will offer these words:
Hearts filled with Darkness can change. If a second chance is asked, I for one will almost always give it. If proof of devotion to repentance is required, I will ask it. I for one will not simply condemn a person who wishes to repent without cause. At times though, an act of devotion should be asked as proof, and if their hearts are the sort that one feels is so deceitful, perhaps asking them for an act of devotion before the gods of light themselves is not unwarranted. The gods, especially Galladell are better judges of the hearts of men, as they see all.
They do not judge blindly as we may.
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30 Apr 2013 13:20 #12
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Sir Cypher
If I may; while mercy and compassion are two of our greatest guards against the dark, I would ask that all approach life or death decisions with not only mercy and compassion, but also with prudence and fortitude.
When I heard tell that a necromancer was allowed to slip through the net of baronial justice, having never even seen so much as a trial, I did not imagine the new life that poor misguided man would make for himself-- no, I imagined more victims, more orphans, more slaughtered villages, more families torn apart only to be stitched back together, and more flesh hungry abominations plaguing the fair people of Travance. I see this and I do not care for it.
I would not urge our daring and virtuous citizens to succumb to hatred and violence, but rather to face every night with vigilance and forethought. While I admit I am new to Travance, it is my home and I have dedicated myself and my house to protecting its citizens and upholding truth in all things. When a cry of fear rings out in the night we will rush to meet it. Travance is alone in this long night. With our bond as our fire and our reason as our guide we will make it through the darkness.
With Prudence and Fortitude
If I may; while mercy and compassion are two of our greatest guards against the dark, I would ask that all approach life or death decisions with not only mercy and compassion, but also with prudence and fortitude.
When I heard tell that a necromancer was allowed to slip through the net of baronial justice, having never even seen so much as a trial, I did not imagine the new life that poor misguided man would make for himself-- no, I imagined more victims, more orphans, more slaughtered villages, more families torn apart only to be stitched back together, and more flesh hungry abominations plaguing the fair people of Travance. I see this and I do not care for it.
I would not urge our daring and virtuous citizens to succumb to hatred and violence, but rather to face every night with vigilance and forethought. While I admit I am new to Travance, it is my home and I have dedicated myself and my house to protecting its citizens and upholding truth in all things. When a cry of fear rings out in the night we will rush to meet it. Travance is alone in this long night. With our bond as our fire and our reason as our guide we will make it through the darkness.
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30 Apr 2013 21:47 #13
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Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic A thought.
Mister Lebastion
You are misinformed on many levels, yet insist upon posting your ignorance.
You are misinformed on many levels, yet insist upon posting your ignorance.
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30 Apr 2013 22:38 #14
by Verrill Lebastion (Wellby)
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Master Haroldson
I would happily hear where I am ever so tragically misinformed. If it suits your busy schedule please feel free to send me a private missive in regards to the particulars of my foolish observations and ramblings.
I would happily hear where I am ever so tragically misinformed. If it suits your busy schedule please feel free to send me a private missive in regards to the particulars of my foolish observations and ramblings.
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30 Apr 2013 23:29 #15
by geezer (geezer)
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Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic A thought.
Mister Lebastion
I would spend hours writing. See me Friday night of the upcoming Baronial Feast and I will endeavor to educate you in this and similar matters, as well as dispel the veil of ignorance with which you have covered yourself on the matter.
I would spend hours writing. See me Friday night of the upcoming Baronial Feast and I will endeavor to educate you in this and similar matters, as well as dispel the veil of ignorance with which you have covered yourself on the matter.
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30 Apr 2013 23:48 #16
by Verrill Lebastion (Wellby)
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Master Haroldson
It would be an pleasure as always. I may have to make room in my schedule. I'd only ask that before you educate me on the failings of my own observations, you consider the recent and tragic fate of the small town of Campbell. Taking a lesson in vigilance and personal responsibility is the least any of us can do for the victims.
It would be an pleasure as always. I may have to make room in my schedule. I'd only ask that before you educate me on the failings of my own observations, you consider the recent and tragic fate of the small town of Campbell. Taking a lesson in vigilance and personal responsibility is the least any of us can do for the victims.
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01 May 2013 10:17 #17
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Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic A thought.
I always enjoy being made privy to the gratuitous assumptions of others, Mister Lebastion. Please see if you can make room in your busy schedule. Fortunately, my expertise and advice is not as highly in demand as yours, so I have no need to rejigger my schedule.
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03 May 2013 12:40 #18
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You have my sincerest apology if I have caused you the slightest inconvenience. I will value any and all council you wish to share with me come next moon.
Yours in Prudence and Fortitude
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Former Ambassador of Ostcliff, Verrill Lebastion. You are hereby ordered to report to Mordovia at once. Your words lack form and decorum and even your apology to the revered Master Haroldson seems rather forced. While I would not subject you to the posh conditions of the Travance jail, perhaps if the conversations go poorly, you will spend some time in the wolf pits of Mordovia. There is a time and a place for banter. A public board is not such a place. We will talk shortly. Do not tarry.
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Replied by Ming Na (Ming Na) on topic A thought.
Former Ambassador of Ostcliff, Verrill Lebastion. You are hereby ordered to report to Mordovia at once. Your words lack form and decorum and even your apology to the revered Master Haroldson seems rather forced. While I would not subject you to the posh conditions of the Travance jail, perhaps if the conversations go poorly, you will spend some time in the wolf pits of Mordovia. There is a time and a place for banter. A public board is not such a place. We will talk shortly. Do not tarry.
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